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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use mostly old fashioned gardening techniques to relax and  escape from  the modern day tech world that we live in.  I&#039;m not a garden club type person. I just like to get back to the good old get my hands dirty and put in a good days work in the garden knowing that I actually created something that will grow and flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use mostly old fashioned gardening techniques to relax and  escape from  the modern day tech world that we live in.  I&#8217;m not a garden club type person. I just like to get back to the good old get my hands dirty and put in a good days work in the garden knowing that I actually created something that will grow and flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Garden Blog Pioneers, Part 6 &#124; Cold Climate Gardening</title>
		<link>http://www.coldclimategardening.com/2006/09/02/garden-blog-pioneers-part-7/comment-page-1/#comment-15234</link>
		<dc:creator>Garden Blog Pioneers, Part 6 &#124; Cold Climate Gardening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Annie in Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.coldclimategardening.com/2006/09/02/garden-blog-pioneers-part-7/comment-page-1/#comment-4212</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, gardeners were among the first to use technology to communicate, including a large group of us on the bulletin boards in the &#039;early days&#039;. I was addicted to the Prodigy boards from 1991 to 1993, along with dozens of other regulars who hung out on the perennial board. 

The members gardened in locations all over the US, delighting in plant identification games, color combination ideas, poetry and jokes as well as the kind of &quot;what&#039;s blooming in my garden&quot; updates that are still around. It was all dial-up, the posts appeared much more slowly, and they lacked photos. One year we tracked the opening of the first daffodils as spring spread over the country. When a sudden spring snowstorm buried Atlanta, solicitous notes poured in to the Georgia gardeners from everywhere. 

Garden author Allen Lacy was a member, sometimes trying out ideas that would later appear in one of his books, and there were professional horticulturalists and scientists. The discussions could get pretty heated! Many of the posts were sub-basic questions from people who could have found the answer in two seconds, but would rather ask a stranger than open a book. That part never changes, does it?  

We mailed seedlings and iris divisions to each other, and the east coast members of the group met, and even toured together - I think one group went to Wave Hill in NY, and another group traveled to Nancy Goodwin&#039;s beloved, long-gone Montrose Nursery and to the NC Botanic Gardens in Raleigh. JC Raulston himself was still alive back then, experimenting like mad! 

And we were all quite concerned about the Michaelangelo virus, due March 6, 1992. 

Annie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, gardeners were among the first to use technology to communicate, including a large group of us on the bulletin boards in the &#8216;early days&#8217;. I was addicted to the Prodigy boards from 1991 to 1993, along with dozens of other regulars who hung out on the perennial board. </p>
<p>The members gardened in locations all over the US, delighting in plant identification games, color combination ideas, poetry and jokes as well as the kind of &#8220;what&#8217;s blooming in my garden&#8221; updates that are still around. It was all dial-up, the posts appeared much more slowly, and they lacked photos. One year we tracked the opening of the first daffodils as spring spread over the country. When a sudden spring snowstorm buried Atlanta, solicitous notes poured in to the Georgia gardeners from everywhere. </p>
<p>Garden author Allen Lacy was a member, sometimes trying out ideas that would later appear in one of his books, and there were professional horticulturalists and scientists. The discussions could get pretty heated! Many of the posts were sub-basic questions from people who could have found the answer in two seconds, but would rather ask a stranger than open a book. That part never changes, does it?  </p>
<p>We mailed seedlings and iris divisions to each other, and the east coast members of the group met, and even toured together &#8211; I think one group went to Wave Hill in NY, and another group traveled to Nancy Goodwin&#8217;s beloved, long-gone Montrose Nursery and to the NC Botanic Gardens in Raleigh. JC Raulston himself was still alive back then, experimenting like mad! </p>
<p>And we were all quite concerned about the Michaelangelo virus, due March 6, 1992. </p>
<p>Annie</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Purdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Ann--
Just checked out your blog, and it turns out we&#039;re practically neighbors. How did you slip through my radar all this time?

Thank you for your kind words. If you get a chance, pick up the October issue of Horticulture with the More for the Northeast supplement. I wrote up Ithaca for the &quot;On the Road&quot; segment. Too bad I didn&#039;t have the opportunity to pick your brain before I wrote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Ann&#8211;<br />
Just checked out your blog, and it turns out we&#8217;re practically neighbors. How did you slip through my radar all this time?</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words. If you get a chance, pick up the October issue of Horticulture with the More for the Northeast supplement. I wrote up Ithaca for the &#8220;On the Road&#8221; segment. Too bad I didn&#8217;t have the opportunity to pick your brain before I wrote it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.coldclimategardening.com/2006/09/02/garden-blog-pioneers-part-7/comment-page-1/#comment-4111</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, thanks for asking these questions. This one (essentially &quot;What took you so long?&quot;) has been on my mind for years.  Blogging seems so perfect for gardeners (the photos, the daily or weekly entries) I&#039;ve wondered for a long time why so few gardeners were doing it. I remember when you started - and it was hard to find a handful of gardening blogs. I&#039;m glad that&#039;s changing. Special thanks for starting and keeping up the Garden Blog Directory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, thanks for asking these questions. This one (essentially &#8220;What took you so long?&#8221;) has been on my mind for years.  Blogging seems so perfect for gardeners (the photos, the daily or weekly entries) I&#8217;ve wondered for a long time why so few gardeners were doing it. I remember when you started &#8211; and it was hard to find a handful of gardening blogs. I&#8217;m glad that&#8217;s changing. Special thanks for starting and keeping up the Garden Blog Directory.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Purdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My closest local garden buddy doesn&#039;t read my blog. As a matter of fact, she has been distancing herself more and more from computers. She has gone from playing Myst and other games on her computer, to cancelling her free Juno email service. What little emailing she does, she does at a public computer. I&#039;m not sure she even owns a working computer anymore, though her grown son is certainly a gadget geek.

Of the people I know that are aware that I have a blog, I don&#039;t think too many read it. So my personal experience is that gardeners aren&#039;t very interested in what goes on in &quot;Computerland,&quot; and the statistics Doug quotes confirm my suspicions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My closest local garden buddy doesn&#8217;t read my blog. As a matter of fact, she has been distancing herself more and more from computers. She has gone from playing Myst and other games on her computer, to cancelling her free Juno email service. What little emailing she does, she does at a public computer. I&#8217;m not sure she even owns a working computer anymore, though her grown son is certainly a gadget geek.</p>
<p>Of the people I know that are aware that I have a blog, I don&#8217;t think too many read it. So my personal experience is that gardeners aren&#8217;t very interested in what goes on in &#8220;Computerland,&#8221; and the statistics Doug quotes confirm my suspicions.</p>
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		<title>By: mss</title>
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		<dc:creator>mss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that my perspective is skewed given that ALL the gardeners I know I met through my blog (with the exception of my mother-in-law who is the only member of my family who reads and comments on my blog). Therefore, from here gardeners look like a pretty net-savvy bunch.

Doug Green has a much more universal perspective. I admit--I don&#039;t hang around at the usual gardening venues of plant societies and garden clubs. So I don&#039;t have a good idea of what the majority of gardeners are really like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that my perspective is skewed given that ALL the gardeners I know I met through my blog (with the exception of my mother-in-law who is the only member of my family who reads and comments on my blog). Therefore, from here gardeners look like a pretty net-savvy bunch.</p>
<p>Doug Green has a much more universal perspective. I admit&#8211;I don&#8217;t hang around at the usual gardening venues of plant societies and garden clubs. So I don&#8217;t have a good idea of what the majority of gardeners are really like.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a comment on an earlier post which would fit in with this discussion.

I would also mention that I am a member of a couple of local gardening clubs. Within those groups there are people of all ages, but I guess older women are certainly over-represented. 

Most of them use email and use the internet to search for things nowadays.  But only a few have ever visited my blog and even those probably only looked at it once and none of them commented online, although in person they did make comments to me. I don&#039;t know if any conclusions could be drawn from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a comment on an earlier post which would fit in with this discussion.</p>
<p>I would also mention that I am a member of a couple of local gardening clubs. Within those groups there are people of all ages, but I guess older women are certainly over-represented. </p>
<p>Most of them use email and use the internet to search for things nowadays.  But only a few have ever visited my blog and even those probably only looked at it once and none of them commented online, although in person they did make comments to me. I don&#8217;t know if any conclusions could be drawn from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in the nursery/gardening business in one way or t&#039;other for over 30 years now (damn, but that makes me sound old) :-) and I will indeed confirm the majority of the gardening trade is indeed resistant to technology.

There are still major greenhouse operations that do not even have dedicated fax lines and are not computerized - never mind email and blogs.

Are gardeners similarly inclined to be technologically behind the times?  

Absolutely.

I run an Internet publishing business and the &quot;problems&quot; I wind up solving for customers such as &quot;I ordered your ebook - it hasn&#039;t come in the mail yet&quot; (meaning snail mail) are constant.

Are these folks bloggers ? No. Those that blog are among the technologically aware and those that actually read blogs are tech savvy compared to the mass of gardeners.

I won&#039;t even hazard a guess why this is so but comparing blog numbers tells one part of the tale. 

AngryChicken - one of the bloggie award nominees about crafting has an Alexa ranking of  501,998.  This is it&#039;s ranking as the most visited site on the Internet.  

GardenRant scores 978,940 - a fair way back.  Cold Climate Gardening scores 1,149,141. Zanthan scores 1,171.208,  
GreenZoo doesn&#039;t rank, 
GardenSpot is the 4,495,354 most visited site on the net, 
Welchwrite comes in at 1,083,463 
Garden Djinn ranks 4,420,735.  

Unfortunately, those hosting on blogger can not be ranked at this time at Alexa - this varies with the day.

So in terms of Internet popularity at least as measured by one craft site up for an award and those blogs listed here plus Garden Rant - we don&#039;t have the same amount of traffic or interest on the Net. This of course makes the assumption that these blogs are the most visited garden blogs and that angry chicken is one of the most visited of craft sites - both assumptions that may not be true.

But still food for thought.

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in the nursery/gardening business in one way or t&#8217;other for over 30 years now (damn, but that makes me sound old) <img src='http://www.coldclimategardening.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  and I will indeed confirm the majority of the gardening trade is indeed resistant to technology.</p>
<p>There are still major greenhouse operations that do not even have dedicated fax lines and are not computerized &#8211; never mind email and blogs.</p>
<p>Are gardeners similarly inclined to be technologically behind the times?  </p>
<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>I run an Internet publishing business and the &#8220;problems&#8221; I wind up solving for customers such as &#8220;I ordered your ebook &#8211; it hasn&#8217;t come in the mail yet&#8221; (meaning snail mail) are constant.</p>
<p>Are these folks bloggers ? No. Those that blog are among the technologically aware and those that actually read blogs are tech savvy compared to the mass of gardeners.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even hazard a guess why this is so but comparing blog numbers tells one part of the tale. </p>
<p>AngryChicken &#8211; one of the bloggie award nominees about crafting has an Alexa ranking of  501,998.  This is it&#8217;s ranking as the most visited site on the Internet.  </p>
<p>GardenRant scores 978,940 &#8211; a fair way back.  Cold Climate Gardening scores 1,149,141. Zanthan scores 1,171.208,<br />
GreenZoo doesn&#8217;t rank,<br />
GardenSpot is the 4,495,354 most visited site on the net,<br />
Welchwrite comes in at 1,083,463<br />
Garden Djinn ranks 4,420,735.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, those hosting on blogger can not be ranked at this time at Alexa &#8211; this varies with the day.</p>
<p>So in terms of Internet popularity at least as measured by one craft site up for an award and those blogs listed here plus Garden Rant &#8211; we don&#8217;t have the same amount of traffic or interest on the Net. This of course makes the assumption that these blogs are the most visited garden blogs and that angry chicken is one of the most visited of craft sites &#8211; both assumptions that may not be true.</p>
<p>But still food for thought.</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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